The stock
market swooned last week and has been bouncing around ever since. “Surely the
market is over-valued” is a comment that you hear frequently. Agreement with such a statement means that
many people will be very worried because it implies that stocks have peaked and
will stop rising. Retirees never like to
hear that since their future incomes are tied to future growth in stock values.
But all of us are concerned – no one wants to see wealth disappear. Simply –
whether you are young and beginning to save or old enough to be on a regular
diet of prunes – it hurts when stock prices stop rising. It hurts even more
when they fall.
So what is
the truth here? Are stocks going to stop rising? Fall? Or is all of this
nonsense and stocks will continue rising?
Below you
will see why I am not pessimistic about stocks. But let’s begin at the
beginning. What does it mean when people say stocks are over-valued? If your
boss tells you that you are over-valued, you know it isn’t a compliment and it
probably means no wage increase is imminent. The word “value” is a common one
that most of us understand. All things have value. Even my old pair of jeans
has value to someone.
Value, however, can be a tricky thing. How about those
old jeans? Some of my well-dressed friends would toss a pair of old jeans as
soon as the fading begins. In contrast, my hippie friends won’t even wear a new
pair of jeans until they have washed them enough times that they are not only
faded but have holes in the knees. Point – the same product might have very
different values to different people.
Economists
recognize this dilemma but point out that markets are places where values are
assigned through prices. If a house sells for 1 million dollars, that’s the
value of the house. The seller may be unhappy with that price and the buyer
ecstatic – but the economist records $1 million. That’s the price at which both
parties agreed to the transaction. So –
implicit values can be almost anything but market price is an objective criterion
widely accepted as value. If we want to know if stocks are over-valued then we
use stock prices.
What does it
mean for stock prices to be under-valued? There is no single meaning. The
popular way is to use something called a price/earnings ratio. P/E has two
parts – a stock price and an earning figure. Think of a single firm. Suppose
its stock price closed at $100. When you
buy that stock for $100 you are hoping it will be a good investment. For the
moment forget the capital gain you might receive by buying low today and
selling high in the future. What’s left is a dividend you might receive from
that share. Let’s suppose the earnings of the company are only $1. In that case,
since dividends reflect earnings, the most you would expect to receive for your
$100 investment is $1. That’s a 1% return. Ugh.
That stock is over-valued at $100. If you had paid $20 for the stock,
then your return would have been a much better 5%.
Some of you
are waving your hands! Larry – when you pay $100 for a stock you have it for
more than one year. So what matters is not just one year of dividends or earnings
– but what happens to earnings over the future. And for that question/comment
you get a gold star. But that’s what gets us into trouble with this
price/earnings approach. The current price and earnings data are known but are
not perfect. But to use future earnings brings in unknowns and expectations and
lots of different opinions. Ron might think a stock is vastly under-priced
because he sees large increases in future earnings. James is more pessimistic
about earnings and thinks today’s stock is highly over-priced.
So while the
price/earnings approach is one that is widely used – it isn’t perfect for
determining when and if the stock market will fall or rise in the future. It is
a valuable approach but it leaves room for other ways to think about stock prices.
Since I am about as boring as a rock in a stream, I like intuitive simple
approaches. Consider some facts about the market. Here I am using the
S&P500 price index. I downloaded data for the time period from 1950 to
September 2014 from a website (https://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC+Historical+Prices ).
I then graphed the data. I converted all this daily data to annual
averages. My limited abilities mean I couldn’t get the graph on this page. But
you can find a graph at the link above.
·
Similar
to my waist size – the S&P500 has had up and down cycles many times but it
has trended upward.
·
The
value of the S&P index in 1950 was about 17 and now hovers at about 2000.
You math jocks can figure out the rate of return of $100 invested in 1950. It is a pretty big number. If you gave that
money to Uncle Charlie (or Uncle Sam) in that year, your return might not have
been so good.
·
During
those years there were many times when the market surged ahead only to return
to more sober (lower) values. Many analysts point out a period from the early
1970s to the early 1980s when the market was essentially flat. But that is
about the only time since 1950 when the market did not pop back in a more
reasonable period of time.
·
Looking
at the graph from 1995 to 2000 and then from 2003 to 2007 the increases where
spectacular. Both peaks were followed by declines that lasted 2-3 years. The
declines were followed by more increases.
·
There
were also interesting time periods when stock prices rose precipitously but did
not fall for extended time periods. If you start in about 1975 the market rises
through the early 2000s with several major spurts followed by shorter setbacks.
The above
points are pretty well known but they do underscore one fact – market gains
always have setbacks but those time periods vary greatly in their intensity
from a couple of months to several years. Gains do not necessarily imply a
seriously stagnant market price.
Now one more
point. If you put money into the S&P500 in 1995 or 1996 and held it until
it reached 2000 last month – your annualized continuously compounded yield would
have been around 7%. That annual appreciation is very much in line with stock
returns over a much longer period. An average market, therefore, is expected to
give you about 7% per year. Now consider the recent time periods of so-called
explosive growth. If you invested money in the year (first column below) and
sold when the market hit 2000 recently*, your investment would have earned the
average compounded rate (column 2) over those number of years (column 3):
1997 4.5%
17
1998
4.3%
16
1999 3.0% 15
2000
2.4% 14
2001 5.2% 13
2002 7.8%
12
2003 6.5% 11
2004 6.0% 10
2005
5.6%
9
2006
5.2% 8
2007 3.9% 7
2008 9.4% 6
2009 13.6% 5
2010 15.1% 4
2011 20.9% 3
2012 17.8% 2
2013 18.9% 1
*Rates of return in the table are calculated from September of each year given through September of 2014.
*Rates of return in the table are calculated from September of each year given through September of 2014.
From the
above table you can see dramatic growth of the last five years. Those are
indeed spectacular returns. But if your eyes move up the table you see that
even with these fantastic stock increases, the annual average returns from
money invested anytime between 1997 and 2007 yielded below historical
averages. Thus even with spectacular growth of the last few years – the longer
term returns in the market are well below average.
What do you
make of this? The answer is that there is no way to know the future. Price/earnings
ratios are interesting but don’t tell the whole story. Returns of the last five
years are indeed spectacular. But even with stock price increases in those five years,
money that got invested 7 to 17 years ago are not impressive. Stocks could rise
several more years before that money earned the average annual return.
Will the
market peak soon and swoon? Will it remain at present levels for 10 years? I
don’t know. But the answer is clearly not a slam dunk.
Dear LSD. I think another question is, “Is the stock market over-valued relative to other investment alternatives—considering age and employment situation?” A young person might think bonds are unsexy ‘cause they don’t pay squat and buying a house (as primary res or income property) requires too much beer money upfront and might not be liquid. That person also might think precious metals are too volatile and esoteric, yet liquid—but maybe better to keeps at arms’ distance. Given the long-term return of stock markets—say between 7%-10% depending on the time frame—and their liquidity, stocks (funds, indexes, EDF, etc.) might be the better alternative. That young person then might think stock markets are not over-priced.
ReplyDeleteGeezers, on the other hand, assuming sufficient equity in homes and diligent saving/investing for 30 years might view bonds more favorably but still somewhat inclined toward stocks (funds, indexes, EDF, etc.) but probably with small betas. So, one answer to the question of “Will the stock market peak, swoon, slither sideways or other?” is, “It depends.”
Another is, “All of the above.”—depending on your time frame—and if that’s not a slam dunk at least it’s all net.
Good stuff Charles. All net. I think I like it!
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