Tuesday, March 1, 2016

Socialism

I wanted to write something thoughtful about socialism. Socialism seems to be sexier than ever and so I had a lot of motivation. And then like reading a four hundred page textbook on sexual dysfunction, I soon glassed over and wondered why I had begun the project in the first place.

That got me thinking again about Bernie Sanders, his supporters and critics, and the possible usefulness of understanding socialism better. I began by searching around for definitions of socialism and that didn’t seem to help very much. If you read enough you soon find that like drugs and bourbons – there are many different kinds of socialism. So I started looking for a common refrain or set of words that were party to most of the definitions and I hit on “state or social ownership” and “democratic control over the means of production”. These are interesting words but hardly ones that we use very much today.

One theme or set of words that made more sense to me was something like “a way of organizing society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies.” Now that one I could sink my teeth into. Immediately China and Vietnam come to mind. In Russia the government owns Gasprom and in Venezuela PDVSA is one of many large companies owned by the government. In Sweden and Norway the government owns many companies too. According to that definition there are many socialist countries.

But as I said above, there is no single definition of socialism and as it turns out there is no simple manifestation of it either. Some countries own many companies while in other countries the government owns only a few. But the differences go even further than number of companies owned. Nowadays we would say that a country is more socialist if the government plays a large and active role in society. One might say that Germany is socialist not so much because the national government owns some banks but more so because government spending is a large percentage of the national economy (as it also is in Belgium, France, Finland and several other countries). In this case the notion of socialism has more to do with the size and reach of government. In this definition a country is less socialist and more market-oriented if it has relatively less government spending and regulation.

I draw two conclusions from the above. First, socialism is not a binary yes/no answer.  Countries are more or less socialist and there are few extreme cases today in which 100% or 0% of all activity is within the government sphere. Thus all countries are at least a wee bit socialist. Second one can always discuss how socialist a country is by looking at how much of national activity is done or largely affected by the the control of government. 

The reason for going through all the verbal torture above is to make the point that “we are all socialists.” The US is already socialist if you agree that about 17% of all US employees work for a local, state or federal government office. Or that the federal government’s debt is approaching 80% of the size of the economy. Or that federal, state, and local government tax revenues will soon reach $6.6 trillion or 36% of the national economy.

So this whole thing about the US becoming a social state is a red herring – no offense intended to small fish. Most of us operate in an environment of markets with a medium to heavy involvement of government. Thus we are both capitalist and socialist. Even China, once the leader of the Communist world, has deregulated many state-owned enterprises and has allowed market forces to effect prices, wages, and other key economic indicators.

So forget that Bernie Sanders is called a socialist or that America is going to become a socialist country. The real question is how to make America’s economy better or how to address our worst economic problems and make the economy work better for all of us. In pursuit of those goals we have a choice but it isn’t between capitalism or socialism. 

The choices are about how we use government to pursue these goals. On the far left we have ideas that essentially greatly increase government reaches. On the far right we have the opposite. There used to be a day when we had a middle approach that took it for granted that we probably should not greatly increase or decrease the role of government but should find ways to make the current extent of government work much better.

A more moderate approach is a compromise and that satisfies almost no one. We could find solutions for the middle class and we could find ways to deal with global competition and industrialization. There are ways to create fairer taxes and more economic growth. But the sad thing is that we will never get any of these things because we would rather argue about who is socialist and who is not. 

One last point about socialism. It seems odd that the people who seem to yell loudest about wanting socialism are the ones who do not live in socialist systems. In Cuba and China, for example, citizens would not be able to broadcast their opinions especially if they questioned socialist policies. And while capitalism may not be perfect it has a long way to go to equalize the economic sins of some socialist systems. In the Soviet Union one could go to the ballet for free -- but many people had to wait decades to receive an apartment or replacement parts for their dilapidated Ladas. Imagine the chagrin of Venezuelans today as the government stopped the expensive practice of virtually giving away goods to the people (7 cents per gallon of gasoline!). And finally, I just saw a report that China has more billionaires than the US. What does that tell you about distribution of income in China?

I see some of you folks at the gym now and then. A couple of you approached me the other day and asked me about my solutions. They were frustrated that I point out the defeatist nature of warring ideologies without suggesting any remedies. I have to admit that I don’t have any real solutions. But I can say that I wonder if democracy is still a viable system when the voters themselves line up in ideological extremes. We haven’t always been that way in America. How did we get there? And if I am right, is there a path back to compromise and meaningful negotiation among people with different opinions and solutions? No I don't have the answer. Do you? It might be the question of our times! 

10 comments:

  1. Latry - your best blog to date. Long live czar Larry.

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    1. Is that because you are a socialist? Socialite? Social Butterfly?

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  2. I have a solution: don't expect somebody with a degree to have "solutions". The ideological extremes are continually searching for solutions from political officials, the more national the better. But the best approach is to solve problems locally..

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    1. I think that local approach left the building a long time ago.

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  3. It is the best blog. It is the core of our economic thought. Socialism is, in my mind, transferring assets and capital from one source to another via laws and using the source of capital from taxes and national debt. The question is what means are used the transfer and how can the results be measured? In the US, the means is "programs" but there never is measurement of the results. These programs tend to be refunded every year. We all have social security which is supposed to be a supplement and same for Medicare. All of the socialistic countries have healthcare, free educations etc. but when education is free is it good education? So yes in many senses the US is quasi socialistic but we tend to vote for it. We also have a quasi free market because regulations control most of it. Were the tribes and govenments

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  4. Dear LSD. I sympathize with your gym buddies’ frustration at your lack of solutions/remedies . . . but I’ve concluded it’s not in your DNA LSD to offer a binary solution to a multifaceted problem. I unnerstand you don’t see the wirld in black in white.

    You ask, Is there a path back to compromise . . . . etc.? There is, but history informs us that when Rs compromise with Ds it always (yes, I use ‘always’ in this context) benefits the latter more than the former. I liken such compromise to a frog in a pot filled with slowly increasing water temp until the frog boils fatally. The problem with varying definitions of socialism is that they don’t provide a clearly defined location on the socialism-capitalism continuum such as a GPS would provide exact location. In the beginning, the US of A pretty much began as a truly capitalist, free market economy. Since its inception it has moved away from that freedom toward socialism—not in the vein of govomit owning/controlling the means of production—but in the increasing size of govomit in the economy and its ability to control/allocate resources particularly via the IRS. This accords with one of your definitions of socialism—‘if the government plays a large and active role in society.’ Understandably Wasserman-Shultz won’t acknowledge that due to its inflammatory and emotionally-charged nature; Bernie doesn’t care and has admitted it proudly. Ds advocate for and adhere to a philosophy of bigger govomit and redistribution of wealth/income, which also accords with that definition. Therein lies a clear and present danger . . . . Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!

    Yes, as you say, ours and others’ economies are blends of socialism/capitalism, and although you don’t say it—I think you would have—we’ve managed to live with it. But the trend is moving in the wrong direction—e.g. the water temperature is increasing—and unless there is a major change (and you know what I mean) in D.C. we’re gunna be floating face down in the water; at that point we’ll all be truly socialist—an outcome I think many in our country would not like, particularly Rs.

    You correctly say we haven’t always been this way and ask how did we get there. The easy answer is compromise. Unless future compromise resets the GPS and water temp to the right position compromise will be futile . . . if not fatal.

    A path to compromise? Shall we compromise on the rate of turning up the heat, the highest degree of heat to reach, or both? That is the question of our time. I have an answer: I say it’s not black and white but binary. Which do you prefer: a 1 or a 0?

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    1. You are a consistent Tuna. We have disagreed about your main point many times and in many ways. You believe that when Rs compromise they end up being sorry that they did so. I think there is something to to that and won't argue with you. But I also see that failing to compromise doesn't do much good either. Rs could take a principled stance toward the end of this year to shut down the government to show disdain with D policies. But if that leads to a loss of the Presidency and the Senate, then what would be gained? Much depends on the validity and cogency of the argument for R values. When it comes to economic issues it seems to me that voters don't want to hear about debts and deficits. All they want is to have someone very loud and confident stop their pain. I don't know what can be done about that. In the meantime we are stuck with extremes who yell over each other's heads...hard to see a good ending.

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  5. Tuna,
    The notion that America started off as a free-market economy is a bit of a romantic notion. After the Revolutionary War our government set tariffs (the Hamilton Tariff) on many products being imported so industry in American could get off the ground. These tariffs also generated much needed revenue for the new government. Once the war was over cotton grown in the U.S. was once again available on the world market, which made textile mills in England happy. To help the textile industry in our newly minted country the government put tariffs on low and mid quality cotton fabric returning to the U.S. - not the high quality fabrics mind you, the upper class still wanted what it wanted - thus giving the textile industry in America a helping hand.

    The market in America has never been free of regulation or control, and that's ok.

    And let me point out that while most think President Reagan - and most Republican administrations - shrank the size of the federal government Office of Personnel Management records show the opposite has happened. Under Reagan the federal workforce grew almost 324,000 people. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/historical-tables/total-government-employment-since-1962/

    And to the idea of socialism in America- as pointed out above, it's always been here. It's a matter of degree and historical/economic circumstance as to the amount of socialism we're ok with.

    Do we ever reduce the amount of socialism once we have it? Not in the super visible ways of doing away with Medicare or Social Security. But if government control of the market is a form of socialism and it is. It's with deregulation that we reduce the amount of socialism in our government. Until, of course, the government needs to step in and save (insert industry here) from itself and the American people from said industry.

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    1. Welcome to the blog Robb! Thanks for your contribution.

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