Austan Goolsby wrote in the WSJ on May 30, “A Fiscal Union won’t fix the Euro Crisis.” I first thought
that since he is a professor at the University of Chicago that we might be
kindred spirits. But that is not the case. While we agree about the ineptness
of a proposed European fiscal union we seem to come at this agreement from very
different angles. I dislike the fiscal union because it would create too much
pressure towards populist expansionary policies across Europe. He dislikes it
because he thinks it won’t do enough to supply a coordinated European government
stimulus.
Here’s his reasoning. First, his
data shows that a fiscal union among the 50 US states means that US states routinely
subsidize each other. For example,
Minnesotans routinely bail out Mississipians through the magic of a federal
government. Goolsby worries that a European fiscal treaty would allow any
country to easily veto that kind of inter-state redistribution. Thus in a
European fiscal union Goolsby worries the austerity hounds would win. I am
concerned about the opposite.
Second, Goolsby blames the woes of Ireland, Greece, Spain
and others on the monetary union. He notes that since the monetary union began
German’s real wages have grown slower than productivity while the opposite
happened in the peripheral countries. Thus, the monetary union – according to
Dr. G (how many times can I type Goolsby?) – has made the peripheral countries
less competitive. This might not be so bad but the monetary union prevents these
countries from overcoming this competitive disadvantage through currency
devaluation. Dr. G laments that without an exchange rate the only avenue left
for these countries is “moving, inflating, struggling, or subsidizing”. Thus he
wants the stronger European countries to either subsidize the weaker ones or he
wants them to inflate.
Wow. Can we check the facts please? The US federal
experiment succeeds because some states subsidize the rest? That is Dr. G’s
main explanation for decades of US growth? The only choice for Europe to
improve the lot of Italians and Greeks is inflation/subsidy from Germans and
Finns? The implication is that the countries that have benefited from monetary
union should be the ones doing the subsidizing and inflating. This is the secret
ingredient necessary for EU growth?
From Dr. G’s analysis one should find in the years after
1998 when the monetary union began, the peripheral countries were weakened
while Germany and some of the others were strengthened. I found a table of real
GDP growth figures for OECD countries ( http://www.oecd.org/document/3/0,3746,en_2649_34109_2483901_1_1_1_1,00.html
) with data for the years from 1987 through 2007). There is little support for
Dr. G in a pre- post- comparison of real GDP annual growth around the year 1998:
·
Finland’s growth rate was higher after monetary
union (2.2% per year versus 1.7%)
·
France’s growth rate was about the same in both
time periods at about 2.2% per year
·
Germany’s average growth rate fell from 2.6% per
year to about 1.6% per year after monetary union
·
Ireland’s growth rate fell very marginally after
monetary union from 6.1% to 5.8% per year
·
Italy’s average annual real GDP growth also fell
marginally from 1.9% to 1.6%.
·
The Netherlands’ growth was helped by monetary
union – from 2.5% to 3.1%
·
Portugal’s growth rate almost halved from 3.4%
per year to 1.8%.
·
Spain improved considerably after monetary union
– from 2.7% before to 4.6% per year afterward.
Germany and Spain’s performances are just the opposite of
G’s conclusion since Germany seems to be weakened while Spain was improved by
monetary union. Using data on standardized unemployment rates across these same
countries shows that except for Portugal, Eurozone countries were greatly
improved by the monetary union. For example, Spain’s unemployment rates
averaged well above 15% in the years before 1998. Afterward Spain’s
unemployment rates averaged about 10% and fell to 8.3% in 2007. It is true that
trade patterns after 1998 changed international competitiveness within the
Eurozone – but these changes are not mirrored in overall economic indicators
like output and employment.
The most outlandish ghoulish assumption, however, is that
somehow economic growth and prosperity has much to do with national stimulus
and subsidization. I know of no growth theory that supports such an unwarranted
conclusion. Growth is all about marshalling inputs and using them in increasingly
productive and innovative and competitive ways.
In today’s cynical and skeptical environment stimulus and subsidy are
even less useful. There is a widespread concern about more stimulus since
governments are deeply in debt and so little has been accomplished in the way
of competitive restructuring of financial, product, and labor markets.
Back to the main point about increased fiscal integration of
Europe. Dr. G is right – a tighter fiscal cooperation among the 17 Eurozone
countries would not be a good idea for Europe. But the reason for the failure
is not that it would bring too little stimulus and subsidy. It is precisely the
opposite. Such a democratic project
among the nations of Europe would soon produce a majority for the same kind of
populist policy trash that now dominates the US. I wouldn’t wish that on
anyone! A fiscal union is not warranted by monetary union nor is it in the best
interests of any of these countries.
I watched Dr. "Gooulsby" speak such rubbish on O'Reilly last week, and O'Reilly, not an economist, wrapped the PhD around his own axle in short order. The good doctor tried to back track and approach the same point from a different angle, but he stumbled, fumbled, farted, and fell again. Obviously, he's spouting a "party line" and doesn't really believe what he says. Hardly anybody else does, either.
ReplyDeleteSounds like a painful experience Fuzzy. Thanks for sharing!
DeleteCommenting here may be a bit of a struggle. But I shall take the plnge.
ReplyDeleteLet's say that the BRIC countries formed a monetary trade union with the US. The Yuan and the Rupee and other currencies would increase in value against the dollar. In other words the dollar would be worth less and it would take more dollars to buy BRIC items. In contrast citizens of the BRIC countries could by more US things with less of their dollars. India and China's GDP might decline because they no longer would be exporting so many products. Unemployment might go up unless the government employed more people to take up the slack left by dropping exports. In the US employment would go up to help created products to export. The US government would have to compete for employees or cut services ...or (God Forbid) become more efficient. Taxes could go down since there would be more private sector income.....with no reason to support all of those not needed government employees. All is good.
Now! A recession comes that reduces the private sector buying in the BRIC and the US. The question is: “how can more capital go into the economy to supposedly stimulate spending? Since the US can print money it can also stimulate without raising taxes...for a little while. The banks all have cross investments with the other banks in the BRIC group so their asset base may be reduced by unpaid loans if they do not get any Federal or other sourced funds to shore up the assets so lending can continue.
In Europe there is a socialistic base. This is not so in the US, India, or Russia but it may be so in China. In the Euro model, too many people were not paying taxes and preferred to work for the government at great benefits or not work at all and collect benefits. The productivity of these countries dropped as well as the amount produced to export or sell internally. Banks had shored up the3 Government who in turn was shoring up the citizens with stimulus. The same dollars were going around in circles with no real rate of return of producing anything that could be sold.
James,
ReplyDeleteI would be careful in generalizing about an EU model. Germany, Spain, and the Netherlands couldn't be more different. Many of the EU countries were growing quite well up til 2007. The ones that got in the most trouble had real estate, leverage/risk, and other issues unrelated to socialism. To boot I am not sure that the US is that far behind when it comes to size of government...ugh
Yes, Lawrence, and size does matter!
ReplyDeleteOK I am not slighting the European Community. However, with 5 weeks minimum mandatory vacation, easy and long term unemployment compensation, taxes that are similar to the total we pay with less people paying per capita, annual raises and fully paid for healthcare….seems like some form of entitlement society or socialism.
ReplyDeleteYes, Spain was also in a housing bubble and could not print money and give it to the banks who in turn also were lending money to the government. We are not there yet but heading down the same pathway….mainly kicking the can down the road. I think Congress did that with slavery and the road ran out in 1861 at Fort Sumter. I cannot wait to see what Congress pulls off to avoid the automatic cuts coming up just before elections.
James I like to keep cause and effect separate. While EU countries generally have larger governments than we do, each country is a very different case. But that is not what caused their current crisis. Size of government may impact their ability to escape the recession but the causes had a lot more to do with real estate and banking excesses. Their immediate concern should be addressing the things that caused their problems. Unfortunately their politicians are not much better than ours at doing that.
ReplyDeleteAny thoughts on Ben Stein's comment that the US should get "aggressively involved" in helping Europe with its financial crisis? I believe that we're very good at creating them.......not so much at getting out of them.
ReplyDeleteThanks Fuzzy. I don't think the US should subsidize Europe. The US is already helping through the IMF loans to Ireland, Greece, and Portugal though I am not sure how much of the IMF money is coming from the US. I suspect we will be asked for more before this is all over. But we really don't have a lot of cash to spread around.
DeleteDear LSD. The EuroZ was based upon an ideal that participating countries could operate monetarily and fiscally in harmony and form an economic juggernaut to compete with the U.S. (and also that they would not war against each other again). An underlying principle was that the countries should operate within their respective budgets – a really big ideal (a really big foolish and ghoulish assumption apparently now). We know that did not happen because the participants’ cultures, values, internal policies and procedures, economic strengths/weaknesses, histories, and competitiveness diverge tremendously. The participants’ inherent differences are too immense and have and will defeat the desire for idealistic harmony. I agree with Ghouslby that a fiscal union won’t work. And, it’s possible the monetary policy eventually won’t work for all participants for much of the same reason – their economies/govomits are to divergent to collectively and harmoniously tango. A house built on cards eventually will crumble.
ReplyDeleteA comparison of EZ countries to U.S. states is apples to oranges.
Dear Charles, I appreciate what you say and it might be true. But I think a house might be a good house even though it gets damaged by a tornado. I think the EU and the EMU have always appreciated and celebrated differences among the countries. Despite these differences they have managed to grow and pretty much proposer for more than 50 years and attain many of their goals while allowing the EU to be a loose federation. That was always the goal. In fact when Germany and France started the process with the Benelux countries they had been enemies too many times. There always have been stark differences between the French and Germans. Yet the thing kept growing and improving. The world crisis has exposed weaknesses much as a tornado does. But I think it is still possible to move forward with all of the members. This tornado ripped the US as well and we show not much better ability to dig out than the Europeans. When the vigilantes aim their guns at our markets we will see that we are not much ahead of our EU friends.
ReplyDeleteDear LSD. Thanks, as always, for a balanced, nuanced, and optimistic outlook. “But I think it is still possible to move forward with all of the members.” Please forgive my layman’s analysis and prognosis – but me thinks the vast cultural, ethos, economic, and competitive differences of the EU countries present a fundamental and fatal flaw – it’s too bad the Greek tragedies could not have envisioned this plot. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. The northern EU country(s) will only and can only support the weaker southern EU countries for so long. What supports and will continue to support the Euro at $1.25 – where is the underlying value? When the weak southern EU countries default does the ECB and IMF (or Germany) just print more moola . . . ala Bernanke . . . at what point does the house of cards implode? How much can Greece, Spain, and Italy export to pay off their debts . . whose economy is growing sufficiently to buy the stuff?
ReplyDeleteDear Charles, I hear what you say and the cards do seem stacked against the Eurozone and the euro. One cannot avoid an avalanche of data and stories that portend a breakup. But I think it is still a fair bet. For one thing inertia suggests they will find a way to muddle through. Second, the expected cost of a breakup might seem greater than the cost of staying together. One possibility is that a grand bargain gets struck wherein the stronger countries agree to a larger but temporary support level and the weaker ones agree to giving up some control over their finances. This implies increased fiscal and supervisory integration....such a change would not be popular with the voters in most countries but it might avert a major meltdown if the euro disintegrates. Who knows? By the way, as an economist I would never want to be branded an optimist! :-) Whatever optimism I might reveal is grounded in what I would call pragmatism. Whatever!
ReplyDeleteDr. D you are an optimist but it brings an edge to your viewpoint...not being conservative or liberal but practical and somewhat intellectual.
ReplyDeleteThe Euro country or government size is not the issue. The issue is productivity and sales. Can the private sector of these countries produce and sell enough services and products to create sufficient income, value and tax revenue to support the more social programs and larger governments? We have the same problem but we are not quite at the tipping point. I am not optimistic about this so I see the tipping point coming....unless we stop fooling ourselves and living in the past of our greatness. It's a global marketplace and we are all connected socially and economically.
James -- it looks like we are on the same wavelength.
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