We mix a lot
of things.
For example,
I like Jack* mixed with ice or what is called “Jack on the Rocks.” Sometimes I
prefer Jack with some bitters and Maraschino cherries, sometimes called an Old
Fashioned. On special occasions I have a dry martini which means you mix a nice
dry gin with a little bit of white vermouth. Shake it in a metal tumbler with some ice until your hand freezes. Add olives.
Basketball
teams mix tall people with short people and often times mix people of color
with whites. A “mixer” is often used to describe a social event or a dance that mixes the sexes. A cake mix mixes together a bunch of ingredients. And what about a pizza? Wow.
We
apparently love to mix. Mixing in the above and many more ways suggests that
things don’t always have to stand alone. It does not have to be one or the
other. For example, Jack is fine straight up out of the bottle. And Maraschino cherries
– wow, they are wonderful alone. Most French fries don’t even need a hint of catsup.
Yet, despite
the wonderfulness of things alone, we often find that combining them produces better outcomes. Straight Jack might be too strong for some people. Gin is not only strong but it
has a specific flavor related to the juniper berry that some people prefer with
some sort of embellishment. Some people are much better single while others can
barely exist without a continuous partner.
All the
above got me thinking about people on the ideological extremes. Like a good ounce
of bourbon, a liberal progressive has some very clear and important characteristics. A conservative makes some points so true and tasty that even pommes frites eaten in a Maastricht square could not compete.
But isn’t it
interesting that even though liberals and conservatives each have very
important beliefs and messages, they don’t see the benefit of mixing? Sure, we
have people called centrists and moderates who blend these ideas, but isn’t it interesting
that the moderates don’t seem to have much sway these days.
Economic
conservatives love motivation and the idea of creating incentives to get people to do things that are good for themselves and for society. For example, a financial
conservative might favor giving a company a tax break so that it might hire
more people and produce more goods.
A liberal worries
that incentive is not enough or that it might be wasted. A liberal might prefer
a more direct approach as in a regulation or a penalty that might drive a firm
to hire more people.
The conservative
retorts that liberal regulations can be misspent and ineffective; the liberal
believes the same of the tax incentive.
This is just
one example of the differences between conservatives and liberals. The point is
that they both have good ideas. As in gin & tonic or a Bloody Mary, why can’t
liberals and conservatives see the beauty in each other’s approaches? In the
above example, perhaps some mixing of incentives and regulations might be
better than the extreme or purely ideological approaches. Giving a firm
incentives to grow, while at the same time putting some parameters around how
the incentives are spent, might work. Paying close attention to the unintended
effects of tax cuts and/or regulations suggests getting the most out of
policies.
Yet as
reasonable as all that sounds, we see moderates drowned out by extremism on the
left and right. Has our world always been that way? Do we lack so much in entertainment
or in so much heart-felt emotion, that we have to fume and scream at each other
when we know that mixing might be better than extreme policies? Is it simply
more fun to scream at people who see the world a little differently?
Must Jack on the Rockers scream at Old-Fashioners?
I don’t know
about you, but I am getting pretty thirsty. A French fry wouldn't hurt either.
Consideration of the other fellow's/gal's view, and potentially being open to compromise, makes sense if in fact you hear a different view. If, however, one only listens or reads views that are a reflection of your position, then compromise does seem unnecessary. If your closet only contains bourbon and sweet vermouth, no need to consider a martini!
ReplyDeleteA martini made with bourbon, Yuk. I think maybe that's a Rob Roy? Good point Ed. So what happened to our education/family structures that we don't learn both sides?
DeleteSomehow I thought a Rob Roy was scotch. Either way, you can't experience variety of opinion unless there is more than one view available to consider.
ReplyDeleteYour other point reminds me of something I had not thought about in quite awhile. Growing up in a large family--oldest of 7 children--dinner time was almost always a family event. My father always led the conversation which included both some education on whatever the day's events were as well as solicitation of everyone's views, usually on some light weight family matter. Good training to both listen as well as be prepared to think through and state a coherent view on a topic of the day. I am not sure family's do much in the way of a common breaking-of-the-bread these days or insist in engagement with other than the electric device in the hands of the kids. ( Sigh!!)
Thanks Ed. I must have meant to say Manhattan!
DeleteWhether it comes from home, school, or somewhere else it would be very sad if young people are not getting exposed to thinking critically about issues.
Dear LSD and Ed. LSD, you and I have walked this trail before (we don’t agree that compromise is the best way to govern our country) so my commentz are mainly for Ed. Shure, compromise as an ideal is ideal, but a glance in the rear view mirror of where our country is today doesn’t indicate that past comprises have produced the outcomes desired. Two hundred forty-four years ago we started out as a boot-strap youngster built on individualism, family cohesion, Christian morality and values, self-reliance, edukation, and charity . . . to name a few original ‘merikan principles. Without gitt’n into the historical weedz it seems in my rear view mirror those principles through the 1950s produced a relatively economically robust, calm, civil, and unified nation. Today there is still economic vigor but also social unrest, incivility, edukation and income disparity, and general factiousness despite 244 years of “compromise” (but with a few exceptions like 1861-1865, for example). IMHO it seems that since the ‘50s—compromise, favoring the Liberal agenda vs. the Conservative agenda—eroded those original ‘merikan principles thus producing today’s divisiveness: Conservatives have given up too much good ‘ol ‘merikan principle in the name of “compromise.”
ReplyDeleteJust cuz I hear/entertain a different view or consider it should not/does not make me partial to it if it cutz ‘cross the grain of my principles. Seventy years of compromise since the ‘50s have diminished this country’s founding core values and principles.
So what happened to our education/family structures that we don't learn both sides? Answer LSD: We compromised. Ya git wut ya compromise.
No bourbon, sweet vermouth, scotch, gin or wodka . . . only mighty fine cold chardonnay. Cheerz!
Well said dear Tuna. I have an appointment now and don't want to leave you hanging. I will return later today and see what if anything I want to add. Maybe Sanibel ER will want to chime in too.
DeleteMake that Sanibel Ed.
DeleteOkay Tuna. I had a nice walk around Green Lake and thought of a couple replies to you. First, while you seem pretty sure about cause and effect, maybe there are other things, besides comprise, that account for or cause some of the negative trends you enumerate. Maybe it is even possible that compromise made things better than they might have been. For example,
DeletePareto when writing about the rise and fall of civilizations, pointed to the effect of higher incomes and standard of living on people's economic and social choices. AS people had higher incomes they were less focused on subsistence and more on what he called higher order wants. Income redistribution and many social programs could fall under higher wants. Second, maybe conservatives and liberals came together to fix these things. Of course, they usually make a mess but I am not sure that history would blame it all on liberals who forced compromises on conservatives? Maybe we should blame it on what happens to most of us when we have higher incomes?
Dear LSD. Tx for the walk down memory lane with Pareto and the effects of income on choices and (Maslow’s??) hierarchy of needs. Shure, income is an important determinant of choices but only one. There are also social, behavioral, cultural, edukational, and political variables that affect choices.
DeleteThought experiments: Wut if, since the ‘50s, “compromise” favored Conservative values/principles vs. Liberal’s. Wut if families, such as Ed’s and his six siblings, maintained unity, endeavored to git good edukations, pursued behaviors to stay out of jail, respect authority, seek stable employment/careers, and elected legislators who promised (in fact, did) vote to institutionalize good ‘ol ‘merikan values/principles? Wut if edukators taught basic R-R&R, ‘merikan history (as is; not revised), civics, classical ekonomicz, didn’t have to substitute for absentee parentz, and edukation depts prohibited social promotion and grade dilution? Wut if the NEA wuz govern’d by Conservatives rather than Liberals—with or without a union? IMHO I don’t think we’d be seeing such high crime rates, disparities in edukation and income, divisiveness, fractiousness, and identity politics.
Of course, it all boilz down to politics . . . and the saying goes, “All politics are local.” So, we getz locally (‘n nationally) wut we votz fer and kompromize on. Ya’ll like where our kountry is at? Are ya ‘appy? Are ya? Are ya?
What if I had a JD right here in front of me? Would I sip it slowly and with much gusto or would I down six of them quickly and drive my car down Aurora at 90 MPH? What iffs are not easy to deal with. I know conservatives and I know other conservatives. The latter might have, given the chance, mucked things up so badly that you get none of the outcomes you thought were possible. This is why I call myself a moderate. I don't trust the fringe of any of the ideologies.
DeleteStuff gets old and changes happen. New stuff has to be tried and tested. Politically we have tried both routes and the distance the R's and D' gets larger. I an a strange breed in that I like to go for "what works and is most feasible to implement and manage". So I argue only as the presented facts and projections made by non political people. But it is during the "discussion" that the real facts come out as long as the two sides do not try to distort the truth.....lots of that going around today. If that is the case then laws and their amendments will make no sense down the road a way.
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