When is enough enough? The US government extended payroll
tax relief and unemployment benefits again. The European Central Bank lent a
ton of money to commercial banks. Everyone but Germany seems to be afraid of
fixing things. When does this stop?
Larry – you just ate three servings of pecan pie to “wash
down” that 72 ounce ribeye. I know
honey, don’t worry I will get on that diet tomorrow. But you said the same
thing yesterday. True but then I was feeding my fever – that’s no time to cut
down to two servings of chocolate cake. I gotta keep my strength up!
This is making me hungry but I am beginning to get a sense
that my past worries were correct. Writing in this blog almost two years ago I
tearfully agreed that some stimulus was warranted for the US and world economy
but also predicted that the worse thing about stimulus is that policy makers
wait too late to withdraw it. And like the fact that I have to wear expando-sweat
pants everywhere I go now, waiting too late to put our countries on a diet is
starting to bite.
Continuing the weight analogy, few economists are really
recommending an extreme basic training approach to economic policy. If
anything, the reasonable people are suggesting that we simply gain 3 pounds
this week instead of the usual 5. Losing weight will come soon but not yet.
That doesn’t sound severe to me. Deficits that took years to build are not
going to be turned into surpluses in the next year or two. But like gaining
only 3 pounds this week, it is possible to have a plan that would gradually
reduce the deficits over the next 3-5 years. The surplus can come later. While
that approach won’t allow Italy a chance to compete in any Iron-man competitions now, it
will send the right message to everyone – including existing and potential holders
of Italian debt.
Pundits were extremely loud and clear last week when they pointed out
how unfair it was that we might let the tax and unemployment extensions die.
One congressman could hardly contain himself on the Senate floor as he
described how failing to extend would undermine fairness to the least advantaged in our society. But let’s be honest. That’s depiction is a gross exaggeration. Maybe it
is a lie. Put the point in this context. It will NEVER seem fair to take this
money away from the people who seem to need it the most. Never. How can you take money away from people and
have it seem fair? But also remember that these specific legislations were
ALWAYS meant to be temporary. How is it possible that politicians who vote for
things that will be temporary are never willing to let them end? How? My answer is that they fibbed in the
beginning. It is only now that they are being honest. They want to keep these entitlements as long
as possible.
After all, how else can we help people who are unemployed or
who have lower incomes? This is the part that is so ludicrous and disingenuous.
Keep in mind that we elect these people to govern our country and to put in
place policies to meet our national goals. It is their JOB to solve these kinds
of problems. So what do they do to attack unemployment and poverty problems?
They legislate exactly nothing that one might call an employment or poverty
program. Instead they give us gruel –
they give us supposedly temporary legislation that spreads crumbs around on the
ground that are soon to disappear the next time a flock of black birds swoop
in.
These elected officials get good salaries and benefits and do nothing that
even approximates an understanding of and policy towards the main challenges of
our economy. What if you went to your doctor with a pain in your chest? You
told her that the pain has been there for a long time but it is really hurting
now. What if she told you to take a couple of aspirins and come back in the
summer? I am thinking that you could have gotten that advice and help from your
local barber. You wouldn’t put up with it. Yet we let these legislators take
their pay to the bank every month while they treat our most pressing national
problems as if they were heartburn. Of course they cannot tell us the truth so instead they inflame us with rhetoric that heats up animosity between people in both parties who would love to see our country return to growth.
To resolve our worst problems right now we need a medium term plan to remove temporary tax changes and entitlements. We need to supplement that with real policies aimed at the things that caused our current slow growth -- a housing bubble bursting and excessive leverage among households, businesses, and government. We do not need politicians who would rather play needless class warfare games than attend to the real issues.
I was just thinking about this with regard to Japan 1990-2010. At some point, you;ve got to give up on Keynsian stimulus. The short run has become the long run.
ReplyDeleteThanks Eric. As in Japan, real remedies always seem to bring immediate and visible pain. Voters seem more happy with a slow band-aid pull and politicians seem willing to give it to us. Geez I hope we don't get a 20 year pull here!
ReplyDeleteWe changed and my hope is that this slow economy will reinforce the need to keep changing. Demand more! Elect better people! Lead! Find solutions! But most importantly do not fall into the trap of accepting the system as is.
ReplyDeleteIf you read or hear e media, you will see a spin toward making people feel that improving better than expected ( although expected is is just slightly better than poor) is OK ..we are on our way....we can start spending again. Think...if buying excessively with leveraged funds is the only way e can keep our GDP moving upwards then we are in a sick situation where there is not solution. We buy and 3/4 of the goods are made elsewhere so where is the dollar turn that is needed for sustainability? We buy stuff we do not need and only want because it looked cool on the i-net or TV or our friends have it.
In the 1930's there were actual 3 contractions after the great depression. Our grandparents and parents learned how to save, how to work for what they got and that they were not entitled to anything unless they earned it. Life was not easy and if was not for World War 11 we would not have risen out of that recession for a long time. But World War 11 was funded by the people via bonds. The two wars we have been in since 2000 were also funded by bonds but other countries bought them....so they really do not show up on the national budget.
James,
ReplyDeleteIt is one of those macro puzzles -- we need to spend more when in a recession but we need to save more during normal times. Seems like we keep getting that all backwards. As for debt -- with respect to the national budget for accounting purposes it doesn't matter who buys the bonds. When the government borrows money from you or from China, it becomes part of the national debt. And interest expense shows up regardless in our government spending.
We pound China because they hold such a large portion of our debt, but our biggest lender is, in fact,
ReplyDeleteourselves...http://thecmereport.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/the-biggest-lender-to-the-us-itself/. And where does all the money come from that we borrow from us? We print it and just keep on "stimulating" ourselves. I still contend that a worse economic disaster is on the near horizon, and it's called hyperinflation. Welcome to the $15,000 Big Mac Value Meal!
Dear Al,
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year big Al. Technically our central bank is prohibited from printing money to finance government deficits. As such, the money to purchase the bonds comes out of the pockets of those who lend it to the government. In fact, however, the last few years have shown a Fed that was quite happy to inject a lot of money into bond markets. So there is plenty of potential for inflation as you say. Until the global slowdown ends, there is little chance of a strong resumption of inflation, even in the US. The Fed still has time to pull out a lot of that money but you and I know the chances of them doing that in time are not good!
Too technical. About funding the wars. Yes selling bonds to China is the same as borrowing from ourselves. The FED has done both. However, if a war is to be funded by the US people then it requires more scrutiny than if the funds come from another source. The Chinese do not vote. So funding an unpopular set of very expensive wars with no defined end or objectives was easier with China.
ReplyDeleteInflation: There is so much pent up demand that as soon as the world economy starts to look better than expected (whoever makes the expectation standards I do not know...maybe some thin-tank) then the demand will be released unless the citizens have learned how to be frugal...which is counter productive to using consumer leveraged cash to stimulate the economy...which is a false stimulation and always crashes hard.
James,
ReplyDeleteFiscal and monetary policy bedevil people. But it is important to see how they are very different -- which was what I was getting at above in my reply to big Al. When the US government borrows, it must borrow from the public -- domestic and private. It is prohibited from borrowing from the Fed. It is the government -- not the Fed -- who borrows from you, me, and China.
Most people who buy bonds from the government don't care what the money is used for. It is a financial transaction. Should I lend my money to the US government? to a corporation? to Greek government? Should I put my money in a saving account? What they care about is the risk-adjusted real return. As long as the US government offers relatively safe returns, foreign and domestic people will buy our government bonds. But when our credit gets even more worrisome, then the government will have trouble raising money and then we will see really high interest rates -- and that will not be good.
As for consumers -- I would not worry about forecaster expectations. Once the economy picks up in earnest and once more people are being hired and more people are earning income-- you can bet on a resumption of spending and an increase in inflation!
Dear LSD. Your complaint that our dysfunctional Congress is stuck temporarily, yet apparently permanently, in neutral and that we should replace it with “better” legislators is shared by many, particularly pundits and ordinary like us folks who have been interviewed on the street and numerous politikal talking-head shows. Your solution is a medium-term plan supplemented with real policies that address “a housing bubble bursting and excessive leverage among households, businesses, and government.” Some of this already has occurred . . . without the help/interference from the govomit you so clearly accuse of being and describe as feckless. Potential buyers of homes and many businesses cannot get credit because the pendulum has swung so far in the opposite direction.
ReplyDeleteExcess leverage is being brought down in the private sector by market forces . . . a clear, unambiguous, and decisive consequence of the feckless policies/legislation imposed on the housing/lending/credit markets to give money/credit to those who couldn’t afford it. Apparently, the federal incumbents have not learned that lesson as the federal budget deficit and debt continue to expand . . . except Barney Frank who has graciously agreed to get the f_ _ _ out’a town.
Unfortunately, your solutions must be enacted by a body comprised of people who don’t want to be replaced and can only be replaced by inconvenient things called elections (impeachments, natural/accidental death, retirement also but unlikely in sufficient numbers) . . . time consuming, often contentious, and messy events which do not always produce desired outcomes. One prescient person interviewed by a politikal talking-head show had the temerity and cajónes to assert that we (voters) get what we vote for. If that is true, then projecting frustration at feckless Washington for being temporarily stuck in permanent neutral is misdirected; the enemy is not in D.C. but the guy/gal in the voting booth who pulls the blue lever.
Dear Charles,
ReplyDeleteSo true so true. It looks like we don't disagree on anything this time. I am afraid that the only way to get the attention of the voter is a real economic calamity. But even that is not a guarantee since the result will depend very much on what kind of leader steps in to fill the vacuum. Reagan was a good leader in 1980. Hitler stepped in about 40 years before that and we still reel from his insane governing. I have one more option to think about. You mention how the void in policy has allowed market forces to work in the right direction -- to some extent. Maybe if we get another year or two of policy stalemate the economy will recover further. A lack of aggressive policy is just what the US economy needs -- especially if the policy is wrongheaded anyway.
Dear LSD. The U.S. cannot afford the luxury of waiting for a real economic calamity (as if the last one was not real enough . . . ) to right the wrongs (e.g. liberals . . . ). Maybe, just maybe, the feckless D.C. pros will continue as you suggest – temporary stalemate – thus allowing market forces to work their magic, avoid additional aggressive policy, and thus also avoid a more realer economic calamity. Was Stimulus Meant to Be Temporary or Not? . . . depends, doesn’t it? If it was successful then maybe one could argue that Keynesian econ works as a temporary fix. Since it did not work (a POV certainly anathema to liberal dogma) one could then argue that more – not temporary – stimulus is needed – assuming that that one is a liberal. I guess one could stretch, then, the logic of the liberal POV/dogma that Keynesian econ should be permanent – e.g. permanently expanding govomit.
ReplyDeleteDontcha just luv political soap opera? The answer/solution will unveil soon after Nov. 6th, eh?
Charles, I suspect we will still be alive on Nov 6. One way or the other.
ReplyDeleteFinally a worthwhile solution ..thank you Dr.D. instead of throwing the Bas...ds out we keep them in neutral where nothing happens and the economy has a real chance to right itself. Probably will not happen...but it is a good wish.
ReplyDeleteCorrecting myself on the war funding. If the public had to vote on spending ?? Trillion on those wars they would not have happened. You are right ...the debt is the debt regardless of the lender...but it hides better from the public if the lender is China.
When the economy gets going gain (think medium and long term) will the same spending cycle return. I think not for one major reason. Demographics. There are more boomers than the workforce that is following and those are not prepared or educated for the future job market. less workers, boomers spending less due to retirement), flat incomes or declining incomes in real dollars, higher cost of healthcare, higher cost of driving...sounds like a flat lined economy for a while.
The question is...why did the huge stimulus not work? What are the mechanics or fundamentals that made what should have been inflationary times deflationary times...especially in housing?
James,
ReplyDeleteI get your drift on the flat lined economy but I don't trust people who extrapolate past trends. The future has a way of surprising us. Before the 1990s we were all sure that productivity would never again rebound in the USA -- and then it took off like a rocket. In the 1970s we thought oil prices would exceed $100. We had prices less than $20 for a decade. I worry more about the debt than I do about under-spending. Read Sowell's book Vision of the Anointed if you want your eyes opened about data. I can't answer your last question since I have to get about packing. But I probably have answered it in 10 different ways in past blogs. To oversimplify -- stimulus was simply the wrong remedy for the specific problems...See you in Hanoi!
Have a safe trip, Larry!
ReplyDeleteWhen has a federal stimulus ever worked? They're straight out of "Keynes' Fairy Tales."
Big Al,
ReplyDeleteThere are conditions under which a stimulus could work but unfortunately politicians have little self control. The early 1960s might have fit the bill but then they didn't know when to stop. Keynes had a good point about offsetting a lack of confidence with a one-time jolt. Unfortunately that wasn't enough to satisfy and the resulting inflation and debt undid whatever benefits might have accrued. 2007 was another chance but the stimulus was not only way too big and lasting but it didn't really meet its claim of shovel-ready. Landed safely. Thanks.
Don't order the "4 and 20 Blackbird" pie!!
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