Tuesday, October 29, 2019

Politics Today and Marginal Analysis in Economics

Those of you who took a course in economics remember the idea that to establish any optimal decision, it usually took the intersection of marginal this or marginal that. 

Probably the most famous of these marginal analyses relates marginal cost to marginal revenue. When MR=MC, we know the firm is producing the output that yields the maximal amount of profits. If MR>MC, then you know you can make greater profits by producing more. If MR<MC, then producing another unit would raise cost more than revenue so you would not produce more.

We have marginal equalities that guide just about all important economic questions –among them are how much to produce, how many workers to hire, how much to pay workers, and where to set your price.

So when we hear so much commotion these days about government spending and taxation, it might be good to remember that most of what we know in economics is all about marginals. The word marginal means “at the edge of something”. Or in terms of most economic applications, it means a small change from a given starting value. 

When we talk about marginal cost we ask, how much will costs change if we produce one more unit of output? We don’t say, how much will costs change if we go from producing 1 car to producing 10,000 cars….or a million cars? Or if we are producing 16 million cars today then we might ask, how much will total costs change if we produce 17 million cars?

Marginals are about small changes for good reasons. It is much easier to think of a small change in output as having known and quantifiable cost changes associated with it. A small change in output probably means more or less the same factory space, with the same utility costs, with same property taxes, and so on. Yes, a small output change might require more worker hours but the relationship between a small change in output and the change in employment ought to be well known.  Contrast that to someone who says, let’s increase output from 1 million cars to 100 million cars. Wow. Estimating the costs of a large change like that could be a lot more complicated and uncertain.

The above is why I am getting nervous about the coming election. Many of the viable candidates on the Democratic side are making a case for non-marginal change. They want big changes. And who can blame them? We have big and enduring problems, and these might require major policy changes. I am not saying that it is wrong to want to make large changes. What worries me, instead, is the confidence that these politicians seem to have about how these large changes will benefit us and how much they will cost. I don’t care if one takes the side of the Ds or the Rs in this context of billions and trillions of dollars. The trouble is believing any of them when they start throwing around trillions of dollars like Jack Daniels mini-bottles on an Alaska Air flight.

One source of these estimates is a group called the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget http://www.crfb.org/blogs/would-medicare-all-require-middle-class-tax-hike .
With respect to Medicare for All, they estimate a bill of about $27 to $35 trillion dollars. That’s a lot of JD. That amount for one program is equal to 100% of GDP and is larger than the national debt. I don’t know how we can be sure of that amount as we switch millions of people out of their own insurance policies and into the government program. In fact, since private premiums would go down, it is unclear how much more we will pay. Of course, I don’t know how anyone could estimate how much more healthcare we will consume when the price for so many people will go down.

The candidates, of course, have very different opinions about who should pay for this program. One candidate thinks the rich will pay the full amount. Do the rich really have an extra $30 trillion just hanging around? Other candidates think the middle class will have to pay a bit of the price tag. They have not told us how much they would pay. 

Maybe they don’t really know!!!! Private estimates are all over the place. One source saying that tax burdens will double for millions of us. Another says the vast majority of workers will pay less for healthcare. Your politics might have you leaning one way or another. But be honest – these folks are pulling this out of their butts. I’d suggest a colonoscopy.

I won’t belabor the point by adding to this discussion all the other programs being debated on the campaign trail including free education ($2.4 trillion), a write-off of past educational loans ($1.6 trillion), the Green New Deal ($93 trillion) … and free JD. While there is much debate about who exactly would pay for this (rich, middle class, military budget reductions), the truth is that if any of these numbers for spending are even close, it is going to be a very major hit on the country.

The point remains. With extremes running the political process how can we believe any of this? Large changes have got to be tough to swallow regardless of these estimates. Why can’t we go back to marginal changes? Is the risk of causing incredible havoc really something we want to face? Why can’t we just go back to the smaller changes of a marginal analysis? Maybe that is too boring? 

20 comments:

  1. Larry-
    Well said and sage advice to the electorate on all sides of all arguments. Not to nitpick but a point of clarification. Don't you mean that MR=MC is an "optimal", rather than "maximal" expression of profit? Otherwise, how can we say that MR>MC is a more desirable state?
    Your overall advice however is quite sound in that we should be describing big change as a reach goal not a right- out-of-the-bag program. I think most folks actually understand that difference even though the pols seem to be in favor of expressions of extreme. In my mind, the basic difference is between those who think that modest change by a small government is preferable to surrendering the future to big government and whatever that body can produce in the way of additional goodies. My sense is that most people have come to believe that if you don't push for total extreme at either end of the spectrum then nothing happens. Both the far right and the far left want "something" to happen (although they are entitled to differ on exactly what) and seem afraid that any moderate proposal will simply die a silent death. As a proponent of small, but focused on the common good, government, I think that my view would simply not rise to the required decibels so as to make the 5:00 pm news. Thanks for your continued thoughts.

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    1. Ed, As regards the technical issue of MR=MC -- it does mean maximum profits as the optimum that firms are seeking is maximum profits-- not minimum. If MR>MC that is not a more desirable state. It means you are NOT at the maximum. It is indicating that producing more will give you a higher profit and move you closer to the maximum profits point. Yes, moderates find it hard to be heard among the din of extreme positions. Agreed! Always nice to hear form you.

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    2. Got it--thanks for the clarification on terminology.

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  2. Dear LSD. I heard some talk’n hedz say the D’s promises of big changes are needed ‘cause their supporters won’t vote for small change . . . . er, changes. Small stuff simply won’t motivate libz/regressives to pull the blue lever even if doing so would push teflon Donnie out’a de WH. Just goze to show their small-mindedness and lack of economics edukation (e.g. the D’s candidates don’t unnerstand their big ticket C > wealth-tax extortion R = break de bank and further obese de deficit without even a modest marginal economic or social benefit). Makes “under-informed voters” an hyperbolic ekzazzeration.


    You ask, “With extremes running the political process how can we believe any of this?” Rational and informed folks can’t and won’t. I posit we’ve been experiencing marginal changes since January 21, 2017—tax and regulation reduction, law enforcement, beef’n up national security, energy independence, etc. Possible exception is trade with Chi-coms but even that is progressing incrementally. “Why can’t we go back to marginal changes?” Me thinkz we’ve been and are there. I think you git my drift on the Chicken of the Seas.

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    1. Dear Tuna, Nice to have you swimming in these waters. I'm not sure where you find all these rational informed folks among all those extremists. When I say "go back to marginal changes I am mostly referring to relative to the current debate. It is true that in the last few years there have not been major changes though major changes itself might be in the mind of the beholders. Some Ds would probably argue that Trump changed the world. Anyway, to me the big issue is the total uncertainty of the effects coming after huge changes in government spending and regulation. I like better the idea of taking it one day at a time.

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    2. Dear LSD. It’s possible the H20 visibility in the Chicken of the Sea was insufficient to make clear my meaning regarding ‘rational and informed’. Twas not to imply comingling of extremists with rational and informed folkz. Rather me thinkz extremists mutually exclusive of rational and informed folkz—e.g. they cannot occupy the same space and time. Therefore I don’t expect to find the latter among the former. The a.m. of November 4, 2020 will evidence the two groups.

      If some think teflon Donnie changed the world they might be onto something. Remindz me of a phrase used after the Sept. 11 attacks, “Low tech high impact.” Accepting his changes as marginal/incremental and world changing (for the better heh heh :)) consider MR>MC at the maximum :).

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    3. Maybe we are both talking beyond each other. I was trying to say that these rational folks are few and far between. I was not implying they co-mingle with the extremes just that they will be swamped by them.

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  3. Good Question. For example, the teachers salaries in many states have lagged behind the teacher's value to the community. In Florida the State mad an incremental change b offering a $5K bonus to teachers who had mad a high SAT score thinking this would attract better teachers since the State is 3,400 full time certified teachers short.The Governor feels as we all do that the starting salary should to raised to the nation's average...another incremental step. However, that salary would be greater or equal to many long time tenured teachers. The State would be forced a way to pay for the change.

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    1. What started out sounding incremental didn't sound so incremental when all factors were taken into account. Maybe they should instead work to make the climate crappier in Florida so they wouldn't have so many people willing to work at a lower wage.

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  4. Roger that. Sales applies to the DEMs HiNt programs with no way to pay except tax and a National Lottery. They sound good but getting from point A to B is impossible in the current economic and political structure. Got to alter restructure first step by step with a real and willingness to follow it

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  5. Doober: Did you complain about non-marginal change when the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 was passed?

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    1. No. Woowee -- the income tax rate for the richest Americans went from 39.6% to 37%. That's exactly like giving free college and a keg of JD to all young people in America. Right.

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    2. As a deficit hawk, I would have thought you might have been concerned about that. Your politics are showing.

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    3. You need to try to stay focused on one issue at a time. You indicated that the tax cut was an equivalent nonmarginal change to all the baloney being offered by Ds. Clearly the tax cut does not fall into that category. I never said I favored the tax cut and I definitely do not like government deficits as my blog proves over and over and over. I can believe the tax cuts were marginal and be against them and the deficits. By the way, as the data I quoted suggest -- the deficits were not so much related to the tax cuts -- but were more a result of increased government spending.

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  6. CBO estimates that receipts in June 2019 totaled $334 billion—$18 billion (or 6 percent) more than those in the same month last year. Individual income and payroll taxes were $7 billion (or 3 percent) higher, and corporate income taxes were up by $11 billion (or 30 percent).Jul 8, 2019

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  7. The deficit is up 26%. https://www.newsweek.com/us-federal-deficit-skyrockets-trump-tax-cuts-blamed-defense-spending-gap-revenues-treasury-1467936

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    1. No one is debating that the deficit is alarmingly high. But quoting Newsweek and Krugman is rich. Nice research. Next time maybe you can ask Pelosi her opinion instead. :-)

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  8. Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor didn't turn out so good for Robbing Hood, or the poor. When caloric input is disconnected from the cost of gaining weight, people eat a lot more Krispy Creme doughnuts and deep fried Snicker Bars, especially if these are free or can be purchased using SNAP. When people don't pay for the cost of unhealthy lifestyle choices (which feel quite pleasant initially), the number of people making these choices increase and so do their magnitudes.

    How much more JD does Larry drink when the MC(JD)=Zero?

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